The Worship Whisperer
S01E17 - Kimberley Debus and Putting It Together

S01E17 - Kimberley Debus and Putting It Together

May 24, 2019

We turn the tables with Michael Tino interviewing me for the final episode of this podcast season! We talked about my ministry, the influence of theater on my theology of worship, and trust. We began by noting that Michael and I spent many years actively avoiding meeting each other for years in North Carolina.

 

My Bio: 

Rev. Kimberley Debus is a community minister based in New York’s Capital Region, where she works to inspire Unitarian Universalists throughout the denomination to be more artful and art-filled in their worship, congregational life, leadership, stewardship, and public witness.

Ordained in May 2017, Kimberley has served One Island Family UU Congregation in Key West, Florida, and the First Universalist Church of Southold, New York. She also serves as chair of the board of directors for the UU Wellspring Spiritual Deepening Program. Kimberley was raised by Unitarian parents and returned Unitarian Universalism in the 1990s during her years as an activist in North Carolina’s LGBTQ community. As both lay leader and minister, she has presented workshops on generational theory, the worship arts, and stewardship. She has been known to burst out in song (particularly show tunes and standards); will wax poetic about British panel shows, mysteries, and The West Wing; and is staff to two tabby cats named Huck and Molly (they didn't come with hats).

At the heart of Kimberley’s ministry is a call to foster creative, collaborative, and spiritually grounded approaches to the challenges and blessings of our faith, which inspire all of us draw the circle of love ever wider.

S01E16 - Aaron White and Remembering Job Is Here

S01E16 - Aaron White and Remembering Job Is Here

May 9, 2019

I had an amazing time talking with Rev. Aaron White - we share a background in theatre and a love of preaching and worship. We talked about aesthetics, ensembles, protecting white boards, and preaching without a net.

 

Bio:

Rev. Aaron White has served for 10 years as the Associate Minister at First Unitarian Church of Dallas, TX. He received a degree in religion and theater from Austin College before attending Harvard Divinity School for seminary, with an academic focus in Sanskrit and Indian studies, comparative religious ethics, and aesthetics. Aaron is a gardener, science geek, and amateur UU historian. He blogs each week at possibilityconspiracy.com and is the host of the upcoming podcast, Possibility Conspiracy, which will launch soon. 

S01E15 - theresa rohlck and a Sense of Balance

S01E15 - theresa rohlck and a Sense of Balance

April 25, 2019

Another fascinating conversation, this time with one of our up and coming ministers, theresa rohlck, whose experience in music and dance informs a beautiful understanding of the work we do in worship. We talked about music school, what we can learn from Indonesian art forms, and the challenges of finding balance.

 

Lots of links for you today:

Yogyanese style gamelan and dance from central Java (the city of Yogyakarta)

John Cage's 4'33"

The Singing Neanderthals by Stephen Mithen

"What Wondrous Love" as performed by Chelsea Moon

"Yes" by Shekina Glory

In the Beginning  Was the Meal by Hal Taussig

 

Bio:

theresa rohlck is a third year seminarian at Meadville Lombard Theological School; she expects to receive her MDiv in May 2019. She will do a one-year chaplain residency in her hometown of Ann Arbor Michigan after graduation. She holds a Bachelor of Musical Arts from the University of Michigan’s School of Music, where, as a violist, she had extensive orchestral and chamber music ensemble experience. However, it was during that time she first heard a Javanese Gamelan and began learning how to play many of the instruments in the ensemble. This led to further musical studies in Indonesia after graduating. A Fulbright grant supported her study there, and she spent three and a half years becoming an accomplished gamelan musician and dancer. Returning to the U.S. she began work at the University of Michigan’s English Language Institute, which led to a Master’s in Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL). Currently theresa conducts the Handbell Choir at the Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Ann Arbor, where she is also a member of the choir, and has served as a worship associate. She is a member of the Association for Unitarian Universalist Music Ministries (AUUMM) and Handbell Musicians of America.

S01E14 - DeReau Farrar and Inching Toward Humility

S01E14 - DeReau Farrar and Inching Toward Humility

April 11, 2019

What a delight it was to talk to DeReau Farrar, the Director of Music at First Unitarian Portland! I have admired him since I first heard his new arrangement of a popular hymn (no spoilers!), and it seems we just got started when we had to wrap up our engaging conversation. Among other things, we talked about urban congregations, musical whiplash, musical diversity, and the Association for UU Music Ministries (AUUMM).

 

Links:

Association for UU Music Ministries

Come Ye Disconsolate (Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway)

 

The theramin:

Grégoire Blanc, playing Debussy

Theme from Midsomer Murders (Celia Sheen)

 

Bio: 

DeReau K. Farrar is Director of Music at First Unitarian Church of Portland, Oregon, which houses the denomination's largest music program. He is also President-elect of the Association for Unitarian Universalist Music Ministries and a member of that organization's Conference Planning Committee. He has previously served Unitarian Universalist congregations in Santa Monica and Downtown Los Angeles, California, as well as the Unitarian Universalist Association's Commission on Institutional Change. DeReau is also a regular contributor for WorshipWeb's Braver/Wiser publication and has written for UUWorld Magazine. Prior to leaving Los Angeles for Portland in 2016, DeReau worked as a freelance music director and vocal contractor for the theater/opera, film, recording, and touring industries. His last films were HBO’s All the Way (2016) and Jordan Peele’s Get Out (2017). 

S01E13 - Beth Norton and the Sound of Vulnerability

S01E13 - Beth Norton and the Sound of Vulnerability

March 28, 2019

Programming Note: If you were expecting this last week, you weren't wrong... I had some non-technical issues that caused a delay. But with this episode, we'll be back on track for alternate Thursdays through May. Yes, I'll be taking a summer break - be warned - but the Worship Whisperer will come back for Season Two in late August.

 

In this episode, I chat with Beth Norton, music director at First Parish UU in Concord, Massachusetts. We had a wonderful time talking, about singing congregations, the Association for UU Music Ministries, things they don't teach you in music school, and the Concord Music Book.

 

Bio:

Beth Norton has been Music Director at First Parish since 1994. Beth believes in the power of music to express what is beyond words, to deepen our spiritual experience and to build community. As a singer, conductor, violinist and folk musician, Beth enjoys making music in a wide variety of styles with people of all ages and abilities. She received her BA in Music from Smith College and her MM in Choral Conducting from the Hartt School of Music. Beth has served as the president of the Unitarian Universalist Musicians Network (now the Association for UU Music Ministries), the professional organization for UU musicians and remains an active member.

S01E12 - Matt Meyer and the Speed of Trust

S01E12 - Matt Meyer and the Speed of Trust

March 7, 2019

Matt Meyer has quickly become a household name, with a busy worship and workshop schedule, frequent appearances at General Assembly and other UU gatherings, and his role as Director of Community Life at Sanctuary Boston. Mat sat down with me to talk about that unique community, songleading, the act of singing together, and how we create context for singing together. 

 

Links:

Sanctuary Boston

AUUMM Main Conference

UU Songleaders Convergence

 

Bio:

Matt Meyer works professionally as an itinerant UU musician and preacher, having led hundreds of services for UU congregations around the country. He is a founding member and Director of Community Life at the Sanctuary Boston. Matt is also a founding member of the Lucy Stone Cooperative and is a dedicated knitter. 

S01E11 - Jason Shelton and the Liturgical Imagination

S01E11 - Jason Shelton and the Liturgical Imagination

February 21, 2019

Good news, everyone! I have a new editor, fellow West Wing fanatic and all around great guy, Alex Boruff! His help with the editing makes the show sound better and give me more time to curate and interview amazing guests.

And speaking of amazing guests, you’re in for a treat today – a long treat, because the conversation was just too good. My guest today is the Rev. Jason Shelton.We talked in late November about the radical shifts we’re seeing in Unitarian Universalism, creating worshipful experiences outside of Sunday morning, and the power of music to engage our faith.

Links:

Jason Shelton Music

Portara Ensemble

Portara and Carrie Underwood at the Country Music Awards

Hymn: Love Has Already Won

 

Bio: 

The Rev. Jason Shelton is a Unitarian Universalist minister, musician, and consultant. He served as Associate Minister for Music at the First Unitarian Universalist Church of Nashville from 1998-2017. In addition to Jason's work as a composer (The Fire of Commitment, Answering the Call of Love, Life Calls Us On, and many more!), he is an active choral conductor and worship leader, and an advocate for using music as a means of creating community in multi-faith, multi-cultural environments.

Formerly a Franciscan brother, Jason received an MDiv from Vanderbilt Divinity School in 2003 and was ordained to the Unitarian Universalist ministry in 2004. Jason is also an active participant in Nashville's vibrant music scene as Artistic Director of Portara Ensemble, a 32-voice auditioned chamber chorus which presents a wide variety of concerts throughout the year and is in-demand for recording sessions and televised performances with some of Nashville's biggest stars.

 

S01E10 - Christian Schmidt and the One Hour a Week

S01E10 - Christian Schmidt and the One Hour a Week

February 8, 2019

Sorry for the one-day delay, folks! Life happens and time is not constant, so there it is. And here it is.

Fortunately, I think the wait is worth it, because my guest is my friend Christian Schmidt, a great minister, a good friend, and a really insightful guy - even if he did call something "very unique." In this podcast, we talked about co-ministry, sermon length, the festival of homiletics, his love of James Luther Adams, and language choices. 

 

Links Referenced:

"Revenge" by Elisa Chavez

The Essential James Luther Adams

Festival of Homiletics

 

Bio:

The Rev. Christian Schmidt is, with his wife Kristin, one of the senior co-ministers of the Unitarian Universalist Church of Berkeley, and lives in nearby Pinole, CA. He’s a father, husband, native Texan, singer, football fan, and devotee of barbecue, not necessarily in that order. He’s convinced it’s better to preach for 15 minutes than 25, and nothing you can say will change his mind on this. This is his first-ever appearance on a podcast. 

S01E09 - Joanna Fontaine Crawford and the Whole Church

S01E09 - Joanna Fontaine Crawford and the Whole Church

January 24, 2019

I imagine Meg Riley beams any time two of her former fellows do something together - so get ready, Meg, because two of us have conspired and the result is today's podcast!

My guest is the Reverend Joanna Fontaine Crawford, who serves Live Oak UU Church in Cedar Park (a suburb in North Austin, Texas.  We talked about technology and what we learned as fellows with the Church of the Larger Fellowship, verboten words and growing up with Unitarian parents.

Last fall, Joanna wrote about the way Live Oak does "whole church worship" at her blog, Boots and Blessings, and we talked a lot about what that looks like in practice.

 

Bio:

Rev. Joanna Fontaine Crawford is a second-generation UU and a seventh generation Texan, a Venn Diagram not often seen. The church she serves, Live Oak UU Church in Cedar Park (a suburb in North Austin) has taken the hashtag #ThatKindOfChurch as their motto, and they're that kind of church that has children in the entire service at every service, with children and youth often leading hymns, doing readings, and other liturgical elements (as well as spontaneous dancing in the aisles). She and her spouse Tom have four children, but she realizes there may be more effective ways to grow Unitarian Universalism. 

 

S01E08 - Madelyn Campbell and the Story on our Lips

S01E08 - Madelyn Campbell and the Story on our Lips

January 10, 2019

I chat with one my favorite fellow michief makers, the Reverend Madelyn Campbell! We chat about showing up, deepening our experiences, and of course Madelyn's passion, storytelling. 

 

Links:

Network of Biblical Storytellers 

Madelyn's book, Guide to Storytelling for Military Chaplains

 

Bio:

Rev. Madelyn Campbell has been serving as an interim minister in UU congregations for the last four years. She’s currently serving as Interim in the Channing Memorial Church in Ellicott City, Maryland. She’s a graduate of Wesley Theological Seminary, where she also earned a certificate in the arts and theology, with a concentration in drama and storytelling.  She is a Certified Master Biblical Storyteller, currently the only UU who is a certified biblical storyteller, but she’s hoping to change that.  In her spare time, Madelyn is pursuing a Doctor of Ministry degree through Wesley Theological Seminary at Wesley House in Cambridge University, England.  She’s pretty sure her project will involve storytelling. She loves Harry Potter and Doctor Who, and has definitely used both in worship.